From DORA to SPACE to DX — A Fireside Chat with Nicole Forsgren

In this special episode, Dr. Nicole Forsgren, author of award-winning book Accelerate and co-author of "The SPACE of Developer Productivity", talks about her work with DORA, the inspiration behind the SPACE framework, and how she's thinking about developer experience.


  • 1:00: The story behind DORA
  • 5:18: The inspiration for writing Accelerate
  • 7:34: How the DORA metrics were received
  • 10:40: Measuring from systems versus surveys
  • 19:30: Motivation for writing the SPACE framework
  • 20:03: The value of perceptual measures
  • 24:45: What developer experience is
  • 26:40: On joining DX as an advisor

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